When Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox News a few years ago, I quickly signed up for his new network TCN.com. Even though I’ve disagreed with him in the past, he says he took a life review when he was sent to cover the war in Iraq, which he originally supported. “I think it’s a total nightmare and disaster, and I’m ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it,” Carlson told the New York Observer in early 2004. He’s been anti-war ever since.
Over the past few years, Tucker has proven to be one of the most curious minds of our time and has an amazing capacity for digging for the truth. His recent interview with Putin should be a must watch for all Americans, to understand how much we have been lied to about Russia, Putin and their intentions towards the US.
A few weeks ago, TCN made an invitation to subscribers to send in a question to his feature called “Ask Tucker.” He had already been answering questions (what is the best dog breed to hunt grouse; how do you raise a daughter) but the producers were looking for good questions that Tucker would answer live on ZOOM with the questioner.
Without hesitation, I wrote, “Do you believe in Afterlife, and if you do, do you believe you can communicate with those who have passed on?”
A day later, I got the response that I had been chosen, along with four others, to meet in a ZOOM pre-production room and one by one be admitted into Tucker’s ZOOM with him.
What struck me most was that I had been visioning and intending to get our message to Tucker since last December, when I was impelled to send him a letter and a copy of Party of Twelve: The Afterlife Interviews. As I composed that correspondence, I felt like I already knew him, had already met him, and continued visioning that he and I would talk someday. My first words in the interview were, “So nice to finally meet you!”
The interview is on his network here. If you don’t want to subscribe, I have provided the transcript below. What was profound was not just that he believes in Afterlife, but that the non-physical part of reality has been a part of all cultures until post-WWII, when capitalism began to push the propaganda about consuming as a pathway to fulfillment. “No other culture in the world has ever been purely materialist other than the West after 1945,” he said, mirroring the sentiments of the Angels in our first book, Diaries of a Psychic Sorority: Talking with the Angels:
You must always remember you are living in one of the least spiritual cultures that has existed on the Earth plane. All intentions at this time within the daily culture are not to have you become independent, free thinking, magical beings. The more you can remember this, the more you can separate yourself from its influence. The Angels, December 14, 1993
In the end, I feel like Tucker is one of us. What with Russia sending war ships and a nuclear sub to Cuba and NATO posed to start a ground attack on Russia, let’s introduce him to Einstein and Conflict REVOLUTION. Let’s expand our conversations about world peace, one person at a time, starting with self. What an impact we will have.
Tucker Carlson and Barbara With
May 23, 2024
Tucker: What’s your question?
BW: My question is, given that Jesus rose from the dead, came and talked to his friends and family, and said basically to us—through his whole life—that what he can do, we can do and we are supposed to do as he does, do you believe in Afterlife? And if you do, do you believe you can communicate with people in Afterlife?
Tucker: Of course I believe in the Afterlife. I wouldn’t still be here if I didn’t. I can’t imagine the purpose of a lot of this without a belief that this isn’t the end. So that’s a foundational belief for me.
I’ve definitely become much more spiritually aware with age. I was pretty secular in my outlook for most of my life, but I’ve never once doubted that this is not all there is. So I absolutely believe that there’s an Afterlife.
It’s very clear to me having personally seen a ghost—not a figment of my imagination, but an actual physical ghost—that you can communicate with or have contact with beings who are not of this world. It’s hard even to know how to describe it, but that the supernatural realm is as real as my iPhone, in some ways more real. I would say it’s absolutely real. It’s not like something we make up. It’s not a myth that, you know, comforts us. It’s a physical reality all around us. That is a fact.
Here’s what I’m extremely uncomfortable with and I don’t understand any of this. I would never overstate my wisdom or knowledge. My ignorance is on full display. I try to remember how ignorant I am every day on everything, but I would be very very worried about messing around with attempting to communicate with that world, because in Christianity and certainly in Judaism, there’s a direct prohibition against sorcery, stuff like that. That stuff is absolutely real. Demonic possession is real. I’ve seen it. We have all seen it. It’s, of course, the story of the whole Bible from beginning to end, people being possessed by demonic spirits. My strong sense is, if you mess around with that in the wrong way, that could be a vector for possession, so I don’t think I would ever do a Ouiji board or anything like that. I would be worried about that.
But yes, of course that’s all real. It’s the greatest lie we’re told—that the only things that are real are the things that you can see and taste and hear and touch. That’s absurd. It’s absolutely absurd. I grew up in such a materialist world that we all did in the United States. It’s crazy looking back on it.
You know what an anomaly this is? You say you’re in a Native American area. I actually live in one too, with a lot of Native American culture. No other culture in the world has ever been purely materialist other than the West after 1945. We are living the exception to the historical rule, which is that every culture acknowledges that the supernatural is totally real except us.
I think people are changing and being like, “Well that was dumb.”
BW: Well, so then how do you think that the prophets in the Bible knew that they were talking to God?
Tucker: I think God spoke to them. I think God speaks to people out loud sometimes. Like actually you can hear with your ears. I mean, that’s clearly true. That is a fact.
BW: But how did they know the difference between what you were just saying about through the Bible about Ouiji boards and witches.
Tucker: Yes …
BW: But to hear a voice of God …
Tucker: Yes …
BW: How … how … how does one know it’s the voice of God and not those others trying to be the voice of God?
Tucker: That is such a great question. Do demons speak to us out loud? I’ve never read that. I have read the Bible and I don’t remember any example of that. But you’re absolutely right. There’s a ton of deception in this world and the next. A ton of deception. A lot of the things we think are life saving are actually life destroying. A lot of things we think are true are not. We missed the truth. Jesus says it again and again and again. When you visited me in prison, when you fed me, when you clothed me, when you clothed this person, the least of these, that was really me. So I agree, we don’t often know.
Here is the marker that I use, which is again, biblical. A Bible scholar, I’m definitely not. Just the opposite, however, this is obvious too, and it’s common sense. Judge the fruits of it.
BW: Exactly. That’s what I was going to say.
Tucker: Godly things are good things. Does it bring you closer to other people? Is it honest? Is there any deception all in it? Does it bring you peace and order, or does it cause chaos, confusion, alienation from other people? Anything that does that is not from God. Clearly! And I don’t care what you tell me. I don’t care if you’re a preacher in church telling me this, that, or the other thing, if I follow your instructions and I’m alienated from people, if I’m confused, if I feel chaotic and unsettled that’s not from God.
It’s not always easy to know the difference and I have found in my life, just speaking as a man, that very often the things that I think I need are exactly the things I shouldn’t have. You know, the things you think are saving you are killing you. I very much see it in other people’s lives because it’s way easier to assess someone else’s life than your own. It’s very hard for me to see myself clearly. I can’t even comb my hair correctly. We just don’t see ourselves clearly, but other people—it’s like crystal clear. “I’ve gotta have this!” Isn’t it killing you? I’m sure you’ve lived that or you’ve seen other people do that, right?
BW: Yeah, absolutely. Going back to the fruits of the labor, that’s been my experience. I am a psychic medium and I do speak with people who passed on and I get this question all the time about, “The Bible says it’s the devil.” You have to judge it by its fruits. What has come through me has been miraculous World Peace level information that has only made the world a better place.
Tucker: That is the measure. I mean, look, I’m so ignorant on these things. I am like Jesus tells us to be, like children. Well, I’m already there.
BW: That’s what we love about you.
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